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April 12

ITEM: Hey, we're atheists around here. And from Jesus and Mo:

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The Atheist movement uses Adbusters-style counterpropaganda. Could that work? That would be funny here. I can see the ads being defaced.

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The "Qatif girl" won a reprieve last week. On Dec. 17, Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah pardoned the young woman, who was sentenced to 200 lashes and six months in prison after she pressed charges against seven men who had raped her and a male acquaintance in 2006. Two weeks earlier, Sudan's president extended a similar reprieve to Gillian Gibbons, the British teacher convicted of insulting Islam because her 7-year-old students named a teddy bear Muhammad. Gibbons had been sentenced to prison, but government-organized street demonstrators were loudly demanding her execution. [...]

No international furor saved Aqsa Parvez, a Toronto teenager, whose father was charged on Dec. 11 with strangling her to death because she refused to wear a hijab. "She just wanted to look like everyone else," one of Aqsa's friends told the National Post, "and I guess her dad had a problem with that." No reprieve came for Banaz Mahmod, either. She was 20, a Kurdish immigrant to Britain, whose father and uncle had her killed last year after she left an abusive arranged marriage and fell in love with a man not from the family's village in Kurdistan. Banaz was choked to death with a bootlace, stuffed into a suitcase, and buried in a garden 70 miles away. More than 25 such "honor killings" have been confirmed in Britain's Muslim community in recent years. Many more are suspected. [...]

By Western standards, the subjugation of women by Muslim fanatics, and the sometimes pathological Islamist obsession with female sexuality, are unthinkable. Time and again they lead to shocking acts of violence and depravity: [...] In San Francisco, a young Muslim woman was shot dead after she uncovered her hair and put on makeup in order to be a maid of honor at a friend's wedding. [...]

All these are only examples - the tip of a dreadful iceberg that will never be demolished until Muslims by the millions rise up against it. As for the rest of us, we too have an obligation to raise our voices. It took a worldwide outcry to spare "Qatif girl" and Nazanin. But there are countless others like them, and our silence may seal their fate.

[Article continues at link. The West is largely a Christian culture, but a secular Christian culture. Christianity is still tied to the Bible and all its support for slavery, all its oppression of women, all its scientific nonsense. But secular Christianity can simply ignore these cruel and foolish practices, picking out the good stuff from the Bible and getting on with things. The Muslim world has so far rejected the secular and has no intention of getting rid of its support for slavery, all its oppression of women, all its scientific nonsense. I hope the Muslim world can get its act together, keep the good stuff and join the rest of us in the 21st Century (even joining the 19th would be an improvement), but there isn't much the West can peacefully do to make that happen. But we can do something about honor killings in the West. Prosecute the murderers and their murderous support system. Use the same techniques that were successful against the Ku Klux Klan and the Mafia - crushing taxation, relentless arrests and incarceration, and inescapable social opprobrium. No honor for honor killers, not one second of respect for their sacred traditions and ancient culture. - Trevor Blake]

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All this and more was published in OVO blog during the past month:

• What Can God Do with 32 Virgins? "Numbers 31:40 states that God wanted thirty-two of the virgins reserved for Himself. What can God do with thirty-two virgins?"
• Where are you NOW? NOW and Sharia: "Does the National Organization of Women refrain from commenting when women are sentenced to lashings? If so, this is a change from 2001 when they spoke out against it. Does NOW refrain from commenting about Muslim law (also known as sharia law)? If so, this is a change from 2002 when they spoke out against it. In the past NOW has spoken out against lashings and against Muslim law."
• Mamie Manneh: "Mamie Manneh is an attempted murderer who illegally imported the remains of endangered species into the USA for the purpose of eating them. Handling and consuming this animal can lead to some of the most nightmarish diseases known to humanity. Only spongiform encephalopathy and religion can soften the mind enough to cause a person to hold Mamie's 'culture' or 'sincere beliefs' worthy of consideration in this regard."
• The Get Out of Your Mind Free Card: "When is a movie theater not a movie theater?"
• CAIR: "The Council on American-Islamic Relations has called for an end to rights violations against women and volunteered support for House Resolution 32."
• Ulam's Spiral: "It was an act of idleness, not labor, that brought this curiosity forth. I place this discovery in the realm of dreams and not wakefulness."
• Ten Thousand: "Ten thousand people have been killed by Muslims in the past six years. These men, women and children were not killed in self-defence, nor were they killed in the heat of the moment, nor were they killed for money, nor were they killed in war. Ten thousand people have been killed by Muslims in the past six years as human sacrifices, as part of the religion of Islam, as Muslims submitting to the invisible monster that lives in the sky."
• Theo-genital Mutilation, Two Versions: "Perhaps tax dollars could be used for something more pressing than the unnecessary mutilation of men and women's genitals."
• The War on (T)Error: "Two members of the religion of peace who bombed London on July 7, 2005 were able to do so only because the US government let them walk."
• Sen. Charles Grassley: "Superstitious non-profit agencies are also tax exempt, but they are not accountable for how much money they take in nor are they accountable for what they spend the money on. Some superstitious non-profit agencies must surely do good work with every penny they can find. But others surely do not."
• What Prevents Sexual Predation? "If there are two claimed ways to reduce sexual predation, one that seems to work and one that seems to not work, we can at least do some good with that real world information."

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Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) has asked six non-profit agencies to account for their earnings. These six agencies are led by Paula White, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinn. Sen. Grassley has no legal means to compel these six to account for their earnings. That is because these agencies serve an invisible monster that lives in the sky.

Secular non-profit agencies are accountable for how much money they take in and what they used that money for. By providing social services in the private sector they lessen the burden of the government to provide those services. By reducing the burden of the government to provide those services they reduce the amount of tax the government can justify taking in. By reducing the amount of tax the government can justify taking in the secular non-profit agencies are awarded with tax exempt status. Secular non-profit agencies are accountable for how much money they take in (to determine how much tax they can be exempt from) and what they used that money for (to demonstrate they relieved the burden of the state).

Superstitious non-profit agencies are also tax exempt, but they are not accountable for how much money they take in nor are they accountable for what they spend the money on. Some superstitious non-profit agencies must surely do good work with every penny they can find. But others surely do not.

The ideal and simple solution would be to get the government out of the superstition business (as suggested by the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America). Hold superstitious non-profit agencies accountable to the same standards as secular non-profit agencies. Require superstitious non-profit agencies to account for how much money they take in and what they spend it on. Where they do good work, let them be rewarded. Leave magic spells offered to an invisible monster that lives in the sky up to individuals and families.

I welcome Sen. Grassley's inquiry. He and those like him might benefit from my January 2006 essay The Case Against Tax Exemption for Religious Organizations in Oregon in OVO 16 Anti-Christ. "At every turn in its thought, society will find us - waiting."

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A sample of the original content that appeared in OVO blog this month:

• Christ @ Work. The Bible does contain some fine moral advice in it. It also contains some inhumanly evil moral advice. It also contains some foolish nonsense that dresses itself up as moral advice. That doesn't make it much different from any number of other books, ancient and modern.
• Extremophiles. What might humanity be able to engineer for ourselves to become extremophiles? What dangers do exremophiles present to humanity?
• Interfaith Dialog. In some places, disagreements are resolved by discussion. In other places, disagreements are resolved by flogging.
• Islam is Peace. Islam, like Christianity and all religions, is a collection of mean-spirited superstitions invented by illiterate pre-scientific nobodies that we have no reason to heed.
• Krankheit. Sometimes sickness is a benefit.
• The Latter-Day Saints and the Boy Scouts of America. Maybe it wouldn't be such a terrible thing if the Mormons got out of the Scouting business.
• More Sperm. February 2005 saw the return of OVO after 13 years of hibernation. The theme for that issue was 'sperm.' Sperm remains in the news, and here are some of the top sperm stories from the past two years.
• Peaceable Protests After Amsterdam Attacks. Police in the Dutch city of Amsterdam say several peaceful protests were held in the sixth night of memorials after officers shot a Moroccan man dead.
• Priorities. It seems that other people being free to celebrate or have their own superstitions is intolerable to Muslims, while public whippings and stoning are just fine as long as they occur in-house.
• Publius Enigma. It has something to do with Pink Floyd and the Internet and a treasure hunt.
• Saturn Return. Saturn Return is when Universe picks you up from under the Christmas tree and shakes you to see if it can figure out what you are.
• SB777. SB777 protects religious belief against discrimination. It also protects discrimination in religious belief. Only religion can distort the rule of law to this degree.
• Sharia in the United States of America. It is illegal to non-surgically amputate people's hands as a punishment for a crime. Illegal under United States law, but legal under sharia law.
• Superstitious Exemption from the Rule of Law. For better and for worse, it is not the case that we can all happily get along. But where there is the rule of law and not force, fiat or superstition we can at least get along peaceably.
• Two Articles from All Africa. Replacing witch doctors with Christians is not going to help the situation.
• Two Links via God is for Suckers. All money spent on religion is money wasted, wasted more thoroughly than money spent on weapons or torture. At least when someone is killed or tortured, something happened.
• Workplace Religious Freedom Act (S. 893). If this bill becomes law, then religious employees will have rights and privileges that no atheist employee can have.

Many other essays and links appeared with original commentary. Fine photographs by Trevor Blake were also to be found. Visit OVO blog today.

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Robert, September 11, The date which will live in infamy:
Now it has been six years. The global jihad proceeds apace, with well over 9,000 deadly attacks carried out in the course of those six years by believers in the proposition that "Islam must dominate, and not be dominated." Yet we are no closer as a society to recognizing how exactly to combat this foe, and our responses flail wildly -- witness this report that prisons have removed Jewish and Christian books from their libraries so as to allow them, within today's suffocating multiculturalist ethos, to remove also books advocating jihad violence and Islamic supremacism. [...]Six years after 9/11, the jihad proceeds apace, and the UN investigates...Islamophobia.

Want to end Islamophobia? End violent attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam. I guarantee that Islamophobia will then vanish utterly.

Adrian Morgan, Six Years After The Wake-Up Call:
It is now exactly six years to the day that the world woke up to the true horror and the evil of Islamism. [...] Since that time, some people seem to have forgotten what created that day of slaughter and the loss of innocence. Conspiracy theorists, taking denial to the furthest degree, still try to capitalize on those tragic and gut-wrenching acts of Muslim terrorism to blame the CIA, the US government, anything to suggest that followers of a barbaric, bloodthirsty, punitive religion invented by a genocidal 7th century caravan-raider could never have committed such a dastardly plan. The wake-up call was made, but too many people prefer to forget, or to minimize the reality. Islamists try to rule through fear. They violently silence a few brave people and the rest of us hide in the shadows, fearful that if we too speak out, or if we are identified as enemies of Islamism, that we too will be silenced by violence.

David Charter, Young Muslims begin dangerous fight for the right to abandon faith:
A group of young Muslim apostates launches a campaign today, the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on America, to make it easier to renounce Islam. The provocative move reflects a growing rift between traditionalists and a younger generation raised on a diet of Dutch tolerance. The Committee for Ex-Muslims promises to campaign for freedom of religion but has already upset the Islamic and political Establishments for stirring tensions among the million-strong Muslim community in the Netherlands.

Ehsan Jami, the committee’s founder, who rejected Islam after the attack on the twin towers in 2001, has become the most talked-about public figure in the Netherlands. He has been forced into hiding after a series of death threats and a recent attack.

[Originally appearing at OVO blog. Let every day be one day closer to the withering away of Islam, Christianity, Judaism and all religions. - Trevor Blake]

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Long-time readers of American Samizdat will remember my previous reports [Feb 3 2005] [Aug 26 2005] [Nov 1 2005] about the practice of adult men sucking blood from the mutilated genitals of infant boys. Unimaginably illegal in all other circumstances, this act is outside the law if done in the name of an invisible monster that lives in the sky. Rabbi Yitzchok Fischer of Rockland County, New York, gave three baby boys herpes by performing metzizah b'peh. One of them died. The State of New York asked Rabbi Fischer to refrain from performing metzizah b'peh for a short while during an investigation. No action was otherwise taken against him.

In November of 2006 the State of New York issued a Circumcision Protocol Regarding the Prevention of Neonatal Herpes Transmission. The Protocol states: "The person performing metzizah b'peh must do the following: 1. Wipe around the outside of the mouth thoroughly, including the labial folds at the corners, with a sterile alcohol wipe, and then discard in a safe place. 2. Wash hands with soap and hot water for 2-6 minutes. 3. Within 5 minutes before metzizah b'peh, rinse mouth thoroughly with a mouthwash containing greater than 25% alcohol and hold the rinse in mouth for 30 seconds or more before discarding it." This Protocol is not a law. It was submitted as a proposal for evaluation by unnamed Rabbis.

Ideally no one would request or allow such a monsterous practice in the 21st Century. Until such time, the state should prosecute religious child sacrifice with the vigor it does for any sort of child murder.

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A new [Canadian] federal law, which received royal assent in June of this year, will require Canadians to prove their identity before casting a ballot. Voters will be asked for government issued photo-id before being allowed to vote. Those without the required id can provide two other pieces of acceptable identification or have another voter in the district vouch for them.

While Muslim women will be asked for photo-id such as a driver’s license, they will not be required to remove their veil. A spokesman for Elections Canada tells CJAD that women may choose to remove the veil but if they opt not to, they can simply provide a second piece of identification in addition to the driver’s license. Women who choose not to unveil will also be given the opportunity to swear an oath and have another voter vouch for them, but Elections Canada says two veiled individuals will not be allowed to vouch for each other.

[Article continues at link. What is being protected by this law, and what is being lost?]

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The mother of a student who was suspended for violating her school system's dress code says the rules unfairly target religion, WRTV in Indianapolis reported. Tracy Prochnow said Highland High School in Indiana suspended her daughter, Brittany Brown, on Monday because the junior wore a Christian-themed T-shirt. Monday was the fourth time Brittany violated the code, which the city's school board implemented this year and requires students to wear khakis and polo shirts. [...] The school's principal, Mark Finger, said the dress code doesn't target religious beliefs. "The policy states there are to be no logos or slogans on a shirt," Finger said. A city council member, Ollie Dixon, said he would work to change the policy. It wasn't clear what changes he would favor.

[Article continues at link.]

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The following comic strip won't be seen in many newspapers this Sunday...



... for fear of offending Muslims. It is good not to offend Muslims by way of comic strips. The invisible monster that lives in the sky that they worship is so weak that colored lines on paper or pixels on a computer screen cause Him to suffer. Gods are an endangered species and most of the thousands of Gods that have ever been worshiped are dead now. We need to take care of the few hundred that are left in the world. Oh, and it's also not good to offend Muslims by way of comic strips because they will boycott your country, threaten you with death, cause you to go into hiding, burn down your buildings, and kill you.

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At a hearing earlier this month, Chief Judge Raymond Dearie of U.S. District Court in Brooklyn ruled that Mamie Manneh, 39, of Staten Island, has legal standing to argue that her religious beliefs should exempt her from criminal prosecution for smuggling the contraband bushmeat. [...] Manneh, who is also known as Mamie Jefferson, was charged in January 2006 with smuggling 65 pieces of bushmeat into America from the West African nation of Guinea in violation of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species. Government agents seized "skulls, limbs and torsos" of primates, including green monkeys and hamadryas baboons, according to court papers. The meat had been smoked.

The U.S. Supreme Court may have bolstered Manneh's prospect of winning last year, when it ruled 8 to 0 in favor of exempting a small group in New Mexico from prosecution for using a hallucinogenic plant to make tea. The court in that case, Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao De Vegetal, found that practice by followers of a Brazilian religion was protected by the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a 1993 law passed by Congress that protects groups who use illegal substances for religious purposes. But bushmeat brings new issues into play, including conservation of protected species and public health threats that experts say can stem from eating primates. Diseases linked to primates include HIV, SARS, Ebola, Monkeypox, and Lassa Fever, the federal government says in its complaint in the case, signed by a special agent of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Philip Alegranti. [...]

Manneh took the stand for the first time this month, where she testified that she was baptized as a Christian, but that she eats the monkey meat at religious ceremonies like Easter "because monkey from the wildlife is a very smart animal," according to a court transcript. Her testimony suggests that she practices a hybridized religion that borrows both from Christian concepts and indigenous African religious beliefs. Seventeen congregants of Manneh's church in Staten Island, the First Christian Church at 54 Thompson St., filed an affidavit in July testifying to the importance of bushmeat for their religious beliefs. "This is something our forefathers did, it is something we learned as children, and it is a part of our treasured relationship with God as African Christians," the congregants wrote. "We eat bushmeat for our souls," they said.

[Article continues at link.]

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Related: Why Richard Dawkins is a mean ol atheist. And a peak at his newest BBC work "The Enemies of Reason".

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What should Christian clergy do if the United States government declares martial law? Why, they should follow Romans 13:1, which reads: "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." And so the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is training clergy to help their flock accept reductions in civil rights.

Homeland Security Enlists Clergy to Quell Public Unrest if Martial Law Ever Declared
Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors as Pacifiers in Preparation For Martial Law
Feds Train Clergy To "Quell Dissent" During Martial Law
Why is FEMA recruiting CLERGY to preach government propaganda? [more links inside]

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When afternoon recess comes at an elementary school on the outskirts of San Diego, some students rush out for a quick game of hopscotch, while others gather in a room for Muslim worship. Like a growing number of school districts around the country, San Diego's is changing its ways to meet the needs of its Islamic students. Here, a controversy with constitutional overtones erupted: In accommodating Muslim students, is the school unfairly promoting religion? The school's policy "presumes that Christians are less religious and less inspired to worship and praise the Lord and come together," says Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. He is asking the school district to set up special rooms where Christians can pray, too. [...]

For now, about 100 students in the Arabic language program at Carver Elementary School are finishing their first year under a daily schedule that gives them a 15-minute recess period in the afternoon, about an hour after lunch. Many of the students are Muslim and transferred from an Arabic-language charter school that folded. Carver Elementary revised its schedule so the students would have the option to pray at the specific times ordained by their religion, says attorney Brent North, who represents the school district. A teacher is present to watch the praying children but cannot lead or take part in the observance.

[Article continues at link. Since the First Amendment insures that no religion will be favored over any other by the State, I look forward to seperate rooms for Muslim boys and Muslim girls to pray in at public schools. Then rooms for Christians, because it wouldn't be right to favor Muslims over Christians. Then a room for Protestants and a room for Catholics. Then a room for each denomination of Protestants and each denomination of Catholic. Then Hindu, then all the Native American religions. Then all the dead religions, just in case those Gods are real and someone wants to worship them. Don't forget the Jews, and all the denominations of Judaism. Shinto, yes, Shinto. Seperate rooms for all, and time out of the school day for all - that's what equal representation is all about. Or maybe what the First Amendment means is that the State should stay out of the superstition business altogether, and that tax dollars should go to secular public schools not religious schools. There are religious schools, and parents are free to send their kids there. There is home schooling, and parents are free to home school their kids. Options exist outside of introducing superstition play time into the public school day.]

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A 48-year-old Phoenix man whom authorities say was choking his 3-year-old granddaughter during an exorcism early Saturday died after struggling with police officers who went into the home to investigate, Phoenix police said.

Police reportedly found Ronald Marquez, of Phoenix, shirtless and choking his granddaughter as her 19-year-old mother, naked and bloody, looked on. The bloodied girl was gasping and screaming as her mother chanted and held a religious picture of some kind, police said.

"It's very bizarre, (a) very unusual and pretty horrific situation this young child was involved in," said Sgt. Joel Tranter, a Phoenix police spokesman. Police responded about 7:30 a.m. to a check-welfare call at a house in the 2200 block of North 28th Street, north of McDowell Road. A relative reported she thought an exorcism was going on at the family home after one was performed two days earlier, police said.

[Article continues at link. The ritual sacrifice of this three-year-old girl occured in the 21st Century, in the United States of America. Be looking long and hard all day long for weeks and weeks on end for a 'not in our name' march to be held, in which Christians all over the USA will formally renounce child sacrifice and 'exorcism.' It won't happen, because the Christians are too busy policing other people's houses to clean their own. Too bad for Marquez that he didn't kill his own granddaughter in Oregon, where child sacrifice is still semi-legal.]

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A man accused of killing a Pearland flight attendant confessed to going to a known gay bar to pick out a target, then going home with him and stabbing him with a knife. Terry Mark Mangum, 26, of Cypress was arrested in June on a murder charge and was indicted Thursday by a Brazoria County grand jury. He is accused of killing Kenneth Cummings Jr., 46, in Cummings’ Pearland home June 5, then cleaning up the blood and driving to a ranch owned by Mangum’s grandfather outside Poteet to bury his body. [...]

“I did it,” he said. “Bottom line is I stabbed him in the head with a knife.” [...] Mangum, who sounded energetic and upbeat, said he met Cummings at a bar in Houston that is a known hangout for homosexual men, and that he was carrying out God’s judgment and “sacrificing” Cummings’ body. Mangum said it was “my belief of God judging him,” and Cummings “just happened to be the one that I bumped into.” Asked if he was targeting Cummings because he was a homosexual, Mangum said, “that was the goal.” Mangum did not specify for what he targeted Cummings, but he did say what he did was “righteous.”

[Article continues at link. Magnum did exactly what the Bible says Christian men should do, and that is kill homosexuals. Now might be a good opportunity for Christians to say once and for all that even though Jesus Christ confirmed - twice - that Christians must murder homosexuals, this two-thousand year old superstition invented by illiterate goat farmers to appease an invisible monster that lives in the sky has no place in today's world. Need more evidence Christianity is immoral and foolish? Click here.]

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Abuse Claims Aimed at Retired Priest. The Episcopal Diocese of Texas has publicly acknowledged decades-old sexual abuse claims against a retired priest who once served as rector of St. James' Episcopal Church in Houston and founded St. James' School.

Ex-Tucson Priest Wants Abuse Accusations Tossed. A Roman Catholic Diocese of Tucson priest accused of molesting three teenage boys during the 1980s wants the case dismissed because of the long delay in charging him. The Rev. Gary E. Underwood, who has not worked in the local diocese since 1987, is facing charges of both child molestation and sexual conduct with a minor in connection with reports that he abused boys while working as a priest at St. Odilia's Catholic Church on Tucson's Northwest Side during the mid-1980s.

Former Priest Clark Out on Cash Bond. A former priest headed for a second trial on sex abuse charges is out of jail after posting bond. According to the Bullitt County jailer, Daniel Clark posted the $10,000 full cash bond Monday afternoon.

Man will receive $875,000 in priest abuse case. The attorney of a man who claimed he was molested by a former Chicago priest said the Archdiocese of Chicago has settled the case for $875,000. Robert Holomshek, 37, was molested decades ago by his former parish priest when he served as an alter boy at the former St. Francis Xavier school on Chicago's North Side, said lawyer Gene Hollander.

Priest's 'Disneyland' emerges at sexual assault trial. Former foster parent and Episcopal priest Donald Shissler sexually assaulted three boys whom he lured to his home by turning it into a "Disneyland" full of fun, games and candy, a prosecutor told a Denver jury Monday.

Priest abuse case settled. A Gulf War veteran who served as a North Side altar boy in the 1970s will receive $875,000 from the Archdiocese of Chicago to settle sexual abuse allegations against his former parish priest, the man’s attorney said Friday.

Chicago priest pleads guilty, gets five years in prison. A Roman Catholic priest accused of fondling young boys pleaded guilty last Monday to five counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse and was sentenced to five years in prison. The Rev. Daniel McCormack was accused of abusing five boys ages 8 to 12 in the rectory of St. Agatha Catholic Church, where he served as parish priest. He could have been sentenced to seven years.

[This is just a sample of what a person can find by searching for the word "priest" at Google News on a single day. Notice any kind of pattern here?]

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